WSIS Resumed Prepcom III

14 November 2005

SubCommittee A: 9:00-12:00

Notes by Jette Madsen, CONGO

 

 

 

Drafting group chaired by Ghana:

Language on 71g): Encouraging relevant parties to commercially negotiate

reduced interconnection costs for LDCs taking into account the special

constraints of LDCs.

Was agreed without further discussions:

 

WG chaired by Canada: The group had come up with 10 “common points” which

formed the basis for the discussions at the rest of the meeting:

 

1. Internet Governance should respect the Geneva principles as set out in

the Geneva declaration and plan of action.

2. Internet Governance includes more than Internet names and addresses,

issues dealt with by ICANN, it also includes other critical issues…

(wording from WGIG report para. 12 to be considered)

3. There are many cross cutting international public policies that are not

adequately addressed with the current mechanisms which require attention.

4. Importance of maximizing the participation of developing countries for

development.

5. Countries’ legitimate interests regarding decisions affecting their

ccTLDs.

6. Importance of the stability and security of the Internet.

7. Finding solutions to issues arising from the use and misuse of the

Internet of particular concern to everyday users.

8. Any Internet Governance approach should continue  to promote an enabling

environment for innovation, competition and investment

9. Agreement  to creation of a forum (function) (pending conclusion of

discussions on Internet Governance and determination of its mandate) (based

in multistakeholder participation).

10. the need for governments, on an equal footing, to be able to carry out

their roles and responsibilities in international public policy issues

pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical operation

of arrangements.

 

Saudi Arabia: Proposal for point 10: “The need for a new cooperation model

to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out…”

 

Australia oppose Saudi Arabian amendment: The need for a new cooperation

model has not been proven – should base on existing models.

 

Ghana propose amendment to point 4 – “… and taking into account the

specific interests in Internet Governance.”

 

US: supports Australia’s concern about the Saudi Arabian amendment.

 

Australia: Where does this document fit into the actual text?

 

Chair: First reactions and then we decide where the paper stands.

 

Saudi Arabia proposes that its proposal for point 10 is put in square

brackets as in point 9. There is two views on both

 

Chair: We are not negotiating text. Will not amend the text, put their

views are heard.

 

South Africa support Saudi Arabian proposal and proposes amendment to point

5: “The need for an oversight mechanism that addresses…”

 

US: sufficiently mechanisms currently within ICANN – no need for an

oversight mechanism. Will not accept the amendment.

 

Chair: There should be no oversight at all? Or there could be a reference

to oversight, but not in this words or in this

 

US: Oversight not necessary. There is existing mechanisms today for

discussions.

 

Saudi Arabia: Need for new model for cooperation between private sector

technical operation and governments’ public policies.

Point 5: the key question if the existing models are sufficient or not.

Existing models does not give nations suvereignity over their ccTLDs.

 

Brazil: According to US we already have a place for oversight, but the

place (GAC) is only an advisory council that has no power to decide. We can

delete the word oversight, but we need a mechanism where countries can

discuss their own ccTLDs

UK: two proposals for para 5

Delete “oversight”, what we need is an “improved mechanism”

Amend “Countries should not be involved in decision on other countries

ccTLDs”

Para 10: “the need for a new cooperation model building on existing

structures”

 

US: want to underscore the existing opportunities of governments to manage

ccTLD as they wish: retain authority, give it over to private sector,

universities – flexility in the existing system.

New cooperation model: signals “a new intergovernmental model” – do not

support this or find it necessary.

To Brazilian intervention: GAC is an advisory body – that provide advices

to a board that is international and elected. Invite Brazil to make

proposal for the GAC at meeting in December.

 

Saudi Arabia: Approve South African proposal on point 5 + EU proposal on

this point.

Problem is broader than ccTLDs – oversight mechanism should also deal with

gTLDs

 

Venezuela: We should refer to “mechanism” and “responsibilities”

Support South African proposal for point 5 (need for a mechanism)

Support proposal for point 10 (need for new cooperation model).

 

Japan: Each country should manage its own ccTLD – we should not set up a

new mechanism

 

Australia: Associate with US on point 5 and 10 + with Japan.

There is a cooperation model in place and it has worked well. Priority is

to ensure that it works well and ongoing

 

UK in response to US intervention: replace “oversight” or “improved” with

“a flexible mechanism” in point 5.

Point 10: EU is willing to consider other words if “a new cooperation

model” is itself a problem for the US.

 

Brazil: ICANN is interested to hear the ideas of the GAC, but we depend on

ICANN to implement our suggestions. Want a more efficient GAC – “a GAC

without the A.”

Chair: instead of alternative mechanism – could a genuine reform of GAC

satisfy you?

How can a body ask for independence if it needs a supervisor to say yes or

no?

 

Iran:

Respond to chair question: what is the ceiling for improvement of GAC? Can

it go beyond its advisory role? We can enhance the role of governments in

GAC, but GAC remains an advisory body.

 

Switzerland:

Questions if not if our wishes is reflected, but if we can live with the

wording.

Support EU wording “improved mechanism” – we will never agree on the word

“oversight”

+ amendment “Countries should not be involved in decision on other

countries ccTLDs”

how are we assured that GAC will improve at the meeting in December – need

for minimum of guarantee that this will happen

 

Columbia:

Obvious that present structures are deficient – no decision-making

possibility for governments

Support “improved and flexible”

 

South Africa respond to US on ccTLD: Need for a mechanism to address

problems. We should lay the ground for an equal footing.

 

Trinidad and Tobago: Para 5 – not just administration of ccTLDs, but

participation in decision-making. Mechanism must be maintained in the text.

 

US on including gTLDs: would like a clarification on why they are put in

same category as ccTLD.

Two points: 1) ICANN can take its own initiative or respond to initiatives

of the GAC. Has specifically asked for the views of the GAC in the past. 2)

No institutions can change without the initiative of its members – invite

members of GAC to make proposals at the December meeting. No initiative –

no change will be brought about.

Survey by Internet Society: members commented on the 4 models and not one

was supported. Interpret is as there is no need for a new model.

There is an ongoing cooperation at the technical level, which should be

encouraged.

 

Israel: different countries have different approaches to the management of

ccTLD - flexibility. Associated with US, Japan and Australia.

 

Samoa supports Japan, US, Australia and Israel. No need for a new

cooperation model. WSIS should be causious with establish

Point 5: “The need to improve existing mechanisms…”

 

China: Support the establishment of an oversight mechanism – improved

mechanism cannot be accepted

Support Saudi Arabia on the need for a new cooperation model.

 

Australia: There has been evolutions within ICANN – is able to evolve

(letter from ICANN’s chair is prove of this). We need to recognize that

there is other stakeholders involved – should keep this in mind.

Cooperation model – should be cooperation between all . Does not see the

present text as common ground.

 

Chair: there is problems on two out of ten points (point 5 and 10). Need to

move on to discussions on point 9, which is bracketed.

Read aloud from letter from the chairman of ICANN: how can the role of

governments be strengthened within existing multistakeholder structures.

How can governments’ concerns best be addressed and how can cooperation

with GAC be improved – invite to a discussion.

 

Uruguay: Substitute “oversight” with “improved” could be a way out +

alternative text on new cooperation model.

 

Indonisia supports South African proposal on point 5 and Saudi Arabian

proposal on point 10 and proposes to Amend Tunis Commitment to point 1.

Proposes a working group that could reformulate point 10.

 

Singapore tries to reinforce commonalities. Point 5: ccTLDs are the

countries’ flags/suvereinity in cyberspace – nobody seems to disagree that

this is a legitimate interest. Proposes new language:

“Countries legitimate interest as expressed and defined by country

regarding decisions affecting their ccTLDs should be respected and upheld

through a flexible and improved framework. Countries should not be involved

in decisions on other countries ccTLDs.”

Disagreement on whether change should come from outside or within GAC.

Singapore believe it is possible to make improvements within GAC. Is

encouraged by the letter from the chair of ICANN.

 

Brazil refers to Swiss intervention: we do not have a guarantee that GAC

will change. Would like to hear the views of the chair of ICANN at the next

meeting if he is here.

 

Chair will talk to ICANN representatives about making a presentation at

next meeting.

 

Saudi Arabia?: prefer original wording in point 5 (to proposal made by

Singapore). Amendment of gTLDs in the text.

 

Korea: wants improvement within existing structures.

 

Ghana: “improved and flexible mechanism” does suggest movement. Another

format that will allow the active participation and inclusion that they

have asked for. Propose the end of the first quarter of 2006 as the

timeline for the establishment of a forum. Forum should be a part of the

ongoing dialogue after Tunis.

 

Chair asks delegation to focus on point 9 – the mandate of the forum. When

should it be established and how long should its mandate continue?

 

Brazil:

-Forum as interface with intergovernmental and other bodies.

- Identify emerging issues and direct them to the attention of the relevant

bodies.

- Make proposal for action on issues that are not covered elsewhere.

- Contribute to capacity building of developing countries

- Time frame for establishment – not later than African proposal.

- timeframe for the end of its work – should be decided by the forum itself

 

Canada:

-        Focused on capacity building

-        Involve all stakeholders

-        Not replace existing institutions

-        Not involved in day-to-day operation

-        Periodically reviews –  its continuation should be reviewed after 5 years.

-        Prepared to accept African proposal for timeframe.

 

Uruguay: Brazilian and Canadian lists are good bases for discussion.

It should be possible for the forum to self-assess its continuation.

Timeframe for establishment seems appropriate.

 

Ghana proposes amendment: “The forum should review in-depth the general

policies of Internet Governance. Such a framework should facilitate

participation for all stakeholders. We call upon UNSG to organize the forum

before the end of the first quarter of 2006.”

 

UK/EU: Interested in Canada’s wording. Should be specified that the forum

is not intended to be involved in oversight of the Internet and the

day-to-day technical operation.

 

Chair asks governments to continue consultations. He will try to prepare a

paper based on this morning’s discussions. First reading this afternoon and

then they will set up drafting groups. Hope to have text ready by 7 pm.

 

Stakeholder interventions:

 

CCBI: Active engagement in the multiple for a that already exist.

Participation of all stakeholders on an equal footing. Not establish a new

institution that will drain resources.

 

CS Internet Governance Caucus: Purpose of forum:

-        foster inclusive dialogue between all stakeholders

-        make practical recommendations for action

Opposes Canadian proposal that limits the focus to development and capacity

building. Would ghettoize the forum as a meaningful tool for dialogue.

No single government should have an eminent role. ICANN should be a global,

independent body.