World Summit on the Information Society Prepcom III
Sub-committee A plenary
1000-1300 Hours
Notes
by Tapani Tarvainen
Observers Statements
Jeanette
Hoffman / IG caucus
Ralf Bendrath / P&S wg & HR caucus
Gender Caucus
Delphine Nana / African Caucus
CCBI
Statement
chair move to section 5
Canada re Forum
[reads way too fast to type, but already
posted to list]
chair we now have 7 proposals on the forum
comments?
Russia
we want "doc 5" listed among base document
good there're UK Arg & Afr prop's in the web
but where are earlier proposals?
should be side by side or we'll have asymmetric situation...
some Room Documents are also missing
Dr Kelly will add wgig doc 5
special status for new was temporary and will be removed
now that we've merged them into DT14-rev
Russia
thank you
Japan
support creation of forum
not try to deal w/ issues handled by existing inst
and not perf oversight
re new models: cont' to consider in the forum
should base on current model
Brazil are we discussing only the forum or also followup
& oversight
chair
everything in section 5 are under discussion
Brazil
there's Br proposal on forum
and Iran's on oversight
EU proposal is close to those
we'll try to work with EU
India prefer Iran prop.
we propose to meet EU deleg. to forge common position
chair who's "we"?
India India and Brazil
China
support Iran
EU proposal has positive elements
"new model of corp" - what form would that take?
what's relationship w/ this new model and the forum?
Saudi Iran's prop. is best
EU prop. includes positive points
forum sep. from other mech is not appropriate
Cuba Iran's prop. best
EU prop. has good elements...
Argentina concur w/ China: could EU clarify on the forum
could est. a working group
chair this is the working group
South Africa want a bod w/ oversight function
support Iran
Barbados 5 key points:
* stick to Geneva principles
* any changes proposed should improve eff. functioning of I.
* don't compromise stab & sec
* both dev'l and dev'ing countries should have a role
* involve all stakeh., then we support the forum
but it should not get involved in tech aspects
Iran EU proposal interesting
want to discuss it in more detail w/ EU
Argentina does not address our concerns
Norway
we have a dilemma
agree w/ principles of USA
stab & sec are primary, multist. & private sect. important
but recognize democracy problem in current situation
but welcome EU and Canada proposals
let's move on from the basis of these prop.
Colombia like int'l mech for handling public policy issues
support Iran, EU prop. has positive elements
S'pore align w/ Norway & Japan
support est. of forum
supp. also Arg. & AfrG on the forum
re oversight: more questions than answers...
need more discussion on oversight mech.
good elements in EU and Afr proposals
Russia
wgig has already worked on these issues...
their report states "there're obstacles to
the devel of I'net that have to be removed"
principles exist (para 48)
let's try to set up criteria (found in existing texts)
Uruguay Arg. prop. good basis for final solution
Afr. prop. interesting
good points in EU prop but some need clarification esp. 63
we don't want est. new org's
Venezuela we're optimistic because we trust all deleg's
are committed to Geneva principles...
Iran's proposal close to our vision
also appreciate EU prop.
Bulgaria ... time to move to implementation...
[reads too fast to type but already posted separately to list]
[chair announces 5-minute break at 11:22]
[cont' 11:41]
chair let's go thru text para by para, should be done in
20 min
look at DT10 rev 2
39: text agreed
39B: agreed
39C: agreed
40: agreed
41: agreed
42: agreed
43: agreed
43B: agreed
44: agreed
44B,45,45B,45C:
Uganda
44B different issue than 44, should have diff. number
chair don't worry we'll renumber when done
46,47,Alt 47,47B,48,48B,48C,48D,48E
Russia
new 48E: we're not talking about producing beer or coca-cola
so "other new _information and communication_ technologies"
chair will insert those two words
48B has some brackets, will return to those
49 & 49B
Uruguay back to 48: there was a suggestion to move some text to 44,
what happened to it?
chair [missed]
Uruguay I withdraw
my comment
chair 3b), 49, 49B, 50, 51
note footnote about highlighted text will be discussed w/ part 5
USA could you explain what you expect us what
to do when you read
the paragraph numbers?
chair if the para is "clean", I expect all
of you to not disagree
if there're brackets it means it's subject to further negotiation
in paras parked "agreed" I assume full consent or speak now
USA OK, but we're seeing some of this language
for the first time
we assume "agreed" means there's agreement in a drafting group
in principle we reserve possibility to come back even on
text now "agreed"
UK new 45B EU mentioned new text
in dg which is not highlighted
(presumably editorial issue)
chair if minor point raise it now, otherwise bring
it to the dg chair
UK perhaps we should work with the
chair but could read the wording now
45B:
a) unchanged
b) _inclusive_ part in _gov't and international_ orgs
c) affordable and open access to content from int'l and govt org
d) accessibility to meetings, recognizing issues of cost and loation
e) participation of all gov't in addressing to ... issues rel to
Int. devel."
chair
please circulate the proposal and send a copy to secretariat
until then text remains as it is.
Brazil new 44B should be before section 3
Uganda
prefer leaving it as it is now
chair we'll note this conflicting advise...
Russia
support your working method
of course we support all countries' right to make reservations
but we'd prefer not to look at the text every time from the beginning
we appeal to EU to have less of these proposals that undermine
compromises that have been achieved
chair let's avoid unraveling wg's agreed text in plenary
if possible
avoid disrupting er disturbing balance
we don't have the luxury of more time
UK agree Russia and chair, not our
intention to introduce new wording
to agreed text but in this case we thought it'd already been
discussed in the group and that wg's work had not been finished
but we're willing to withdraw our proposal
chair let's give applause to EU
[clapping of hands]
Uruguay we made a reservation on 48 in dg and we're not satisfied
with the text here now but to avoid hampering the progress
we won't make new proposal
chair chank you, let's go to 49... 50... 51...
Ecuador 49: drafting group led by Canada is continuing work on it
today 13:30, right?
chair that's right, we'll revisit this later
move on to 52-55
Nicaragua / grulag we withdraw our request of brackets in 52
Ecuador
in grulag could not reach consensus on language on 53
but we feel it is important to retain protection of privacy and
personal data
we want to include reference to right of access to information
keep the spirit of the para but add
", without prejudice to full exercise of the right to access to
information," after "data" in 2nd line
Russia
we have misgivings about this proposal
this text doesn't really fit in this paragraph
and is not necessary
chair who will have this right to access - governments
or individuals?
Ecuador we're all individuals, esp. in info society
where much data is in poss. of gov'ts it is important
that we ensure access to individuals
Brazil we agreed on Ecuador on citizen's point of view
but we fear this can be turned upside down
to give gov't access to private information...
chair
maybe some search engine will say they have right to
private information you want to protect
ditto investigation agencies &c
USA
concur w/ Russia and Brazil
perhaps there's need for further editing
chair
Russia, Ecuador & USA: get together to sort this out
move on
54 deleted
new 55 clean
new 55B clean, presumably agreed
part 4
Ghana
we'll meet this afternoon to try to meet consensus
that's all for now
chair dg chair told me there're brand new proposals
have been made after
consultations - please consider withdrawing if possible
on to 57
Nicaragua re 57 grulag asks if you're organising a dg re our proposal
not really new just takes elements expressed before
chair dg will meet 13:30 in this very room
Ghana
note of caution: let's try to resist new text
chair 58
Switzerland this new 58 is somewhat confusing, old better
reintroduce "capacity in a range of areas to Internet
management at a national level"
chair where should it be inserted?
Switzerland we have to discuss this again
chair the dg will meet in the afternoon
probably this is doable, doesn't look difficult
on to 59...
60... agreed and clean
61, Alt1 61, Alt2 61
Egypt we're still conducting shuttle diplomacy...
chair on to part 5, we'll have to work on this together
treating open questions in 3a and 5 as one cluster
some countries want bilateral cons. w/ EU
some supported Argentina
Russia reminded of their own
so: meet bilaterally, try to meet each other
Norway can act as mediator if needed
I would've preferred open-ended meetings
but I think we need a phased approach
cannot railroad the process
so hold your bilateral consultations
between now and 18 or pref. now and 16
at some point you should all meet each other
[12:33]